Xbox 720 beta kit contains two APUs

The current Xbox 720 beta kit contains two APUs, according to a new leak.

TGFC member called BD, who is supposed to be an ex-Ubisoft employee, and who also leaked the Xbox 720 specs earlier which contained an Eight-core CPU and 8 GB RAM, has posted that the latest beta kit for the Xbox 720 has two APUs or dual APUs.

Now this is quite an incredible engineering feat if it is true. This was posted on April 1, however, BD has also posted that the Xbox 720 controllers were covered in irregular black tape stripes, almost camouflage like.

Kotaku had posted their rumour on April 2 and mentioned the same thing about the controller having stripes. So it seems BD’s post was legitimate.

“Last Friday project received the first batch of Durango, Beta Kit, Host oversized white box, new handle,” he wrote (translated from Chinese). “And host and handle are plastered with the irregular black tape stripes, and the new car before the release of camouflage-like. The most important thing is, Beta Kit actually there are two APU.”

Microsoft should be officially revealing their next Xbox sometime later this year. It was originally supposed to be revealed in April, but was delayed by a month.

It is interesting to note that the PS4 has only one APU, so if the final Xbox 720 architecture contains two APUs, it just changes the whole dynamics of next gen competition.

Even if this rumour turns out to be inaccurate, a console having two APUs is a really interesting thing and something worth discussing.

  • tkkh

    april’s fools regardless of kotaku

  • Xbox FTW

    If MS were smart they would just use the one APU and integrate a “Valhalla” Xbox 360 CPU+GPU chip as the second on the PCB for full backwards compatibility and additional computing power when necessary. Or just include another stand-alone GPU that matches the APU one’s performance for Alternate Frame Rendering of higher needing games.

    • jmc8888

      No need to. PS4 would need to integrate a cell chip because they are going x86.

      360 basically was built off a PC platform, which means all they need is to get it compatible with the new OS/software. Because it’ll just be a faster x86 console.

      It’s also why you saw many more 360/PC games, then PS3/PC games. I don’t think there were any. Only IF games were 360/PS3/PC games, were games that had PS3 versions on PC.

      Also you couldn’t use the original Valhalla as ‘additional computing power’. It doesn’t work like that, and it wouldn’t add much besides. You’re literally talking about something 1/50th-1/100th the power of an uber PC in 2013.

      Think about it. When you SLI/Crossfire a two PC gfx cards, they need to be the SAME series.

      Meaning you can’t have a GTX 670 working with a GTX 495.

      • Krepler

        You’re thinking of the original XBox, which was built on x86 architecture. The 360 uses the same PowerPC chip used in the PS3, only it was custom made to MS’s specs. and abviously without the SPEs.

    • Brazen

      That would be awful. That would mean the Xbox would use DDR 2

  • DarthDiggler

    This would mean they are using a custom motherboard with custom chipset. So far no Dual APU motherboards exist. Likely this is for debugging if it is true.

  • Russell Gorall

    Everything still points to the next Xbox being about 2/3 as powerful as PS4, possibly slightly less.

    I am not paying for a bundled Kinect and Microsoft hardware at launch.

    • jmc8888

      This is true, except that might be that EACH APU is 1.2 TFlops.

      It makes sense really. Because a 1.2 TFlops part is basically a cheap GPU. Hell even 1.8 TFlops GPU like the PS4 can be had on PC for $200-220 on new egg.

      So the 1.2 TFlops can be had for about $100. If you have two APU’s then you can have two 1.2 TFlops each taking advantage of an APU and perhaps at about the same cost, maybe slightly more than what PS4 has but have quite a bit more flexibility in the machine.

      It might not be able to match PC’s in terms of pure graphical performance, but what it can produce, it will be able to do alot with. In other words, while PC’s will have the ultra modern graphical features and much higher resolution, the 720…if this is true, would not only have 2.4 TFlops of total graphical power…making it on par with a GTX 670, yet with 2 APU’s it will have two ultra fast memory bandwidth lanes from which to shuttle everything.

      If it had this, it could have better bandwidth and more memory capability with only 4 GB’s of memory. The question would be. Would they have two weak 8 core CPU’s or 2 even weaker 4 core CPU’s.

      Because as it stands all the CPU’s in the new console, even if 8 core, are far less powerful than an i7 920 at stock speed, which had 4 cores, back in 2008. (and only cost $229 at launch).

      It’s too bad they didn’t use intel though, because such a setup with hyperthreading would give such a setup another 50 percent performance, not to mention the overall power advantage Intel has over AMD with CPU’s.

  • http://twitter.com/Zii69 ZMAN

    Does not the PS4 have 2x cpu dies on one chip with 4x cores each and a dedicated 7970 mobility gpu at 1280 shaders. So if the xbox had 2x apus that would be 368 shaders on each apu w/ 4 cores. That is still less shaders, and the same cpu power. No news here except that the apus are two junkie chips.

    • http://soundcloud.com/justinwaylonmorgan-1 Justin Waylon Morgan

      Yep, its been confirmed that the PS4 has two CPUs. One Jaguar AMD Octacore CPU for the main system operation and games, and then a separate yet undisclosed CPU for background operations.

  • http://soundcloud.com/justinwaylonmorgan-1 Justin Waylon Morgan

    Its already been said and confirmed by the press conference and multiple official spec sheets that the PS4 would have two CPUs. One main one for all the heavy lifting of games and the OS, and one to take care of background processes like downloading, uploading, decoding, etc.

  • http://www.facebook.com/christopher.r.day.39 Christopher Robin Day

    The apu is a chip with integrated graphics.

    If it is true that the Xbox 720 has two Ali’s this would be substantial, as it is already confirmed that the 720 and ps4 have the same basic radeon architecture integrated into an apu. Thus the 720 would have two of them while ps4 would have one. It is entirely different to have one apu, 4 cores, and 4 die than to have two apu 4 cores 2 die. Especially since the two gpu’s are integrated into the apu with the CPU. This is a big deal if accurate. It would mean the 720 is leagues ahead.

  • http://www.facebook.com/christopher.r.day.39 Christopher Robin Day

    Correction: 4 x 2 on the ps4 same as 4 x 2 on the 720. If this is true though it is 4 x 2 with two gpu cores versus 4 x 2 with 1 gpu core