Microsoft exec clarifies “meaningless” PS4/Xbox One specs comment

Xbox product planning boss Albert Penello earlier said that comparisons between PS4 and Xbox One were meaningless and it’s all about the games, however, after much scrutiny by people he has clarified that comment.

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He posted a lengthy comment on GAF and explained why he believes that. He also praised Sony’s engineering team and revealed that Xbox One had a good showing at E3 and most games looked next-gen.

“I appreciate those who understand the point I was trying to get across. It’s always hard, after sitting doing interviews all day, and you’re trying to have an engaging conversation with someone, and words get pulled out our the tone what you’re trying to say didn’t come out how you meant it,” he wrote.

“You should also understand this interview was done after our launch event, and prior to E3. So please take that into consideration.

“I’m not diminishing Sony’s performance claims and I wasn’t trying to be arrogant or dismissive. What I was trying to say is – I’m not Sony’s engineering team. So I can’t comment on what they have published as specs. I know what our teams are doing, and I know how they thought about architecting the system. The guys who are building these machines (on both sides) are unbelievably talented and experts in their field. Nobody knows the specifics of how the machines are architected or if there may be bottlenecks in one system or accelerators in another that change the impact of the published specs.”

He also added that games are what matters and revealed that cloud is something that is actually real and boosts performance as described by Titanfall creators. He also called Ryse the most next-gen looking game on PS4 and Xbox One at E3.

“What I believe is that our games are going to be great and they are going to look next-gen, and I *think* E3 sort of showed that. And great games are what matters. And while you guys joke about the cloud stuff, I think the stuff the Respawn guys have said starts to clear up what we’ve been talking about with cloud performance (cue the “have you seen Titanfall” meme).,” he added.

“Games on both systems looked awesome. I was there, and while I know RISE took a hit on the gameplay that was shown, I thought it was the most next-gen looking game I saw on either platform. Of course, I get I’m biased and I didn’t have time to see everything.”

Well that’s a pretty honest assessment of the whole situation. What do you think about it? Let us know below.

  • Vince1979

    Good post.

  • Mookie

    Ryse … really? Ryse? No it wasnt and it wasnt even on the xboxone it was on a high end pc with better specs than xb1. Is this guy serious? Deep Down looked better than Ryse…seriously.

    • msonic98

      You guys love to keep spitting that “high end pc” BS. The only game running on PC was lococycle because it wasn’t ported yet. EVERY OTHER GAME WAS RUNNING ON THE XBOX 1. My god, you guys are so ignorant it’s unbelievable.

      • cozomel

        No, its been said and proven that every game at e3 on x1 was running on pcs except for ryse, forza5 and I forget the last one, but look it up and people need to spreading lies all the time just because they are ignorant

        • msonic98

          Sauce?

          • Gee

            (MS)sonic98 blatantly ignores facts and throws confusion at everyone in attempt to make the xbox look better. Something tells me that MS in his name is giving a way a little too much. Company shill? I say so.

      • Dakan45

        NO WE GOT PICTURES, GAMES RUN ON PCS NOT ON XBONE.
        ps Giantbomb said “chill guys, most ps4 games i saw run on pcs” So dont start praising ps4 just yet.

        • gamerguy

          You’re so sad for believing that M$ horseshit!! The games were running off PCs – simple as! I WILL praise the PS4 as its pretty much what I want – why wouldn’t you praise something you like?! idiot!

          • Dakan45

            The idiot here is you because i stated clearly that they run on pcs, but you are so retarded you didnt even get that.

            However sony lies and overhypes so i will not praise ps4 either.

          • gamerguy

            Whoops, replied to wrong one. They can overhype as much as they want, only idiots buy into it – I wait till the console or game come out! But I will praise what they said the PS4 can and will do!

          • Dakan45

            “But I will praise what they said the PS4 can and will do!”

            Hey guys check this out ps3 is a powerfull as a 4000$ pc, yet crysis proved em wrong. Hey guys ps2 is so powerfull that terrorists can use it to make weapons of mass destruction. I still remember the reallistic hair physics in ps2 tech demos, 2 generations later, still not in actual games.

            http://turboimg.com/p/qik1369514669f.jpg sony lies and overyhpes, surelly ps4 will take the generation since its the best of the 3 consolles and lets face it xbone is messed up, but dont beleive what sony “says” ps4 can do. Take everything with a grain of salt, they are not gonna sell you a master system for 400 bucks.

          • gamerguy

            Say whatever you want, the graphics on PS exclusives are 2nd to none (who does better, no one), and its the best console out there by a country mile, so who cares? M$ and Sony both lie and overhype – but Sony by far is the lesser of two evils, and only an idiot would believe everything they say! You’re way off topic, and your hate for sony is well documented but completely stupid as M$ are 10x worse than anything sony do!

          • Dakan45

            AHAHAHHAh ahahhahah no

            the graphics are mediocre by pc standards.

            The only ps3 game with impressive graphics was killlzone 3.

          • gamerguy

            Yes of course DUHHHH if you want to compare with PC – but this is NOT what we’re discussing mate! Of course a PC will win because you can change and update hardware (duh) – so, for console graphics PS3 murders everyone, nothing even comes close. KZ2 and 3 were amazing, as were ALL 3 Uncharted games (c’mon dude, those looked fucking amazing, even for PC it looked good) and of course, LOU looks fucking great! BUt I don’t even care that much about ‘amazing’ graphics, they need to be up to standard, but def not most important – that goes to gameplay and story which are the two main factors for me. Peace be with you.

          • Dakan45

            Uncharted 2 looks bad if you ask me. Awful lighting.

            Mw2 on pc looks better than uncharted 2, i got pics.

            LOU looks like ass it runs on horrible resolution, awful lighting, blurry textures.

          • gamerguy

            You have got to be kidding me! Not a chance MW2 or any COD game looks better, hahahahahahaha you need glasses mate – or someone to explain to you what lighting and textures are, not just internet keywords and bullshit jargon! Say what you want about LOU but it looks better than pretty much any game out there, and better than any 360 game!

      • GaySkull

        Every time an MS employee speaks for Xbone their spew trash and Xpose their ignorance and stupidity more and more. What is going on? really

  • Dakan45

    Ok, cloud cannot boost perfomance. Nuff with this crap.

    • wampdog29

      Actually, it can, but you woul dhave to have a very good internet speed/connection and it would slow down/lag multi-player like crazy. It can boost performance by adding server power to the mix. It just adds a lot of lag.

      • Benjamin Ibbetson

        There would be less lag, not more. The cloud is a dedicated server, having more lag would defeat the purpose.

        • wampdog29

          No, there would be more lag because you have to take into account the fact that this is sending and receiving data over the internet. Not to mention the button/motion input from the player. Try playing Onlive one time and you’ll see the lag. Don’t even get me started when you decide to add in multiplayer lag on top of that.

          • Benjamin Ibbetson

            Ah, I see the issue. You’re assuming Microsoft are using the ‘cloud’ in the same way as Gaikai and Onlive. They aren’t.

            Read this, straight from the mouth of one of the developers:

            http://www.respawn.com/news/lets-talk-about-the-xbox-live-cloud/

            I can understand the confusion. The word ‘cloud’ is fairly meaningless. It really just means servers that host anything you want, be it storage or playing whole games.

            As you know, Gaikai and Onlive actually play the whole game on the servers which then send you the audio and visual.

            This is NOT what M$ are doing. At it’s most mundane the cloud is likely to be used as dedicated servers for multiplayer (M$ make it cheap for Xbox One; look up Microsoft Azure).

            At other times they will use it to run portions of the game else where. The important word there is portions. They are NOT running the entire game on the servers. Certain aspects such as AI will be handled on the cloud. It will be up to developers to determine which bits will be handled by the cloud. It is unlikely to be to do with the graphics for precisely the reasons you have mentioned.

            I’m sure developers will think of other uses further down the road.

      • Dakan45

        It cant, the idea has been used on pc with ONLIVE you need a very stable and powerfull internet to play from a powerfull pc far away. You cannot get +extra better graphics on xboxone by that logic, it will mean that xbone is a piece of trash that has no power and it connects to high end pcs to play games from them rather ON the system.

        You can love or hate xbone as much as you want but, do not believe cloud crap even for a second.

        • Hussain Naseem

          the cloud is a pipe dream for realtime processing but stuff like the static lighting calculations could actually be offloaded to a server while the level is loading similar to what Forza 5 is claiming to do

          • Dakan45

            “Claim” is key here.

          • wampdog29

            Exactly. For realtime situations, we will need super fast internet connections, faster response times in our displays and faster input with less lag.

        • wampdog29

          I understand this and have used Onlive, but when getting down to technicalities, yes, it IS INDEED possible. The Xbox is no longer the only thing creating what you see on screen, but is in fact the servers and if those servers are a million times more powerful than the Xbox One, then you will see that power. It’s just lag that becomes a problem since it is sending and receiving data over the internet all while trying to incorporate your button/motion input.

          • Dakan45

            Pl then, lets put town the techinicalities, so exactly does it work, i am interested because that wa i can mix my 2 pcs and make graphics look better.

            So yeah how exactly is this supossed to work?

          • wampdog29

            Wait, wait, wait. Really, yes. If you could find a way to make an interface that connects 2 PCs together, then yes. You could make your games run better. What do you think the servers at Google do to allow you to search anywhere and anything? What, you think it’s one small server/workstation? Uh, no. It’s called a server farm. Thousnds or even millions of servers working together. Remember when the PS3 was first released and you could allow your PS3 to hook into a collection of other PS3′s to help out scientific research? Yeah. Same idea. You are linking many servers (or computers) to harness all of their power in order to create something better.

          • Dakan45

            Yeah but multi rendering through cloud is impossible.

    • EX+

      Thank you. The cloud is just storage. Not a performance booster. That’s BS.
      M$ were saying the specs for the PS4 and even the Xbox One specs aren’t known. But we already know this and a lot more: Xbox One 8GB of DDR3 and only 5GB for games. PS4 8GB of GDDR5 RAM rumoured to use 7GB and some rumours say the full 8GB for games(if it’s 8GB they’ll have another chip or something specifically for the OS). Plus they were attacking Sony because they know their specs are weaker. Whatever and like the care about games what exclusives have they got that they’ll have consistently?
      The point is if you don’t have the specs, your not getting the games. Later on when games are using more RAM (in about 2-3 years) the Xbox One will get less multiplats or some seriously watered down ports.

      • dirkradke

        Wrong. What do you think SETI on the PC or the @Home project on the PS3 was doing when they asked for your spare processor cycles? That was THERE cloud. So yes it can make a difference. Will it make the difference Microsoft is hoping for the X-Box One. Who knows?

        • Benjamin Ibbetson

          You sir, actually know what you are talking about.

          That’s rare on the net.

          • tlcdlite

            I agree!!

        • cozomel

          God, you fucking fanboys are complete and utter idiots and obviously do not understand how this shit works. Yes, cloud computing/gaming is real however, MS’ claims of making the xone 3 times stronger are complete and utter bullshit.

          cloud streaming a game like Gaikai or Onlive do/did is not the same thing as what MS is claiming. You cant mix cloud elements with realtime locally processed elements that easily, because of the lag and bandwidth issues cloud processing would have and developers would have to work out. You could add some elements to the game from the cloud but they would have to be elelments that dont get as effected by the lag or lack of bandwidth. So it makes it really limited. It would be similar to having a FMV background with objects on top. It would be obvious that the 2 are disconnected/disjointed. And wouldn’t work well in this day and age. But could work for some types of games. And you stupid fucking fanboys seem to forget that Sony has cloud computing capabilities too. Or do you stupid fucks thin cloud computing is something only x1 can do?

          • Dakan45

            i thumbed you up, thats how you should post from now on.

          • tlcdlite

            You stupid FUCK Sony is not using it

          • cozomel

            - Moderated

        • Hussain Naseem

          so how does that relate to realtime problem solving on consoles? u send a packet of data for processing and wait for it to finish in a hour or so and give you back the results and till that happens the character cannot move waiting for the server to finish processing

          • dirkradke

            I have 25+ years experience in computers and networking to understand exactly what Microsoft is talking about. What I don’t have is the simple words you require to cure your lack of knowledge.

          • Elsupacabra

            dirkradke, Are you a robot?

          • dirkradke

            Are you a robot?

          • Elsupacabra

            mind = blown, Mr. Robot

          • dirkradke

            ERROR. ERROR. Does not compute.

          • tlcdlite

            Yeah!! Just say it, they are stupid, and ignorants

        • EX+

          Bro, NO difference is made. Again it’s just storage. M$ is just throwing around marketing BS.

          • dirkradke

            I have 25+ years experience in computers and networking to actually understand what Microsoft is talking about. What I don’t have are the simple words you want to cure your lack of knowledge. Fortunately for me I’m not Microsoft and I don’t have to figure that out. This is 1 of the reasons why Microsoft has failed against the PS4 so far. They have to be too technical for the layman to understand the explanation of how cloud computing can work.

          • EX+

            My lack of knowledge? Ok I’m not stupid when it comes to computers. I’m not a genius but I’m not stupid. Cloud=storage as far as I know and I’m sticking to that. IF the cloud did change anything it would be making DIGITALLY downloaded games run SLIGHTLY smoother (as in no freezing and stuff). It’s not gonna improve graphical capabilities whatsoever.

          • dirkradke

            Never said you were stupid with computers, but you truly don’t have the understanding of the technology it takes and I don’t have simple terminology better than what Microsoft came up with to explain it. What you’re doing is taking the most simplistic view of what is possible and then saying that is all there is because you don’t understand it.

          • tlcdlite

            So how do you get back your storage? Doesn’t it come back the same way it left? It just doesn’t sit there and do nothing it is used up back and forth between devices constantly it developers upload data to the cloud which then gets used by the game when needed, that data is not on your hard drive or even your game disc, there less memory being used, more system resources available

          • Tom

            I seriously doubt any of you have any grasp of what cloud computing is. Go to the wikipedia page for cloud computing and look at Infrastructure as a service. Also look at the wikipedia page for windows azure and educate yourself.

    • cozomel

      im with ya on this one, you despicable piece of shit!

      • Dakan45

        You had to be a dipshit and downvote me though.

        I dont support either consoles, but i like techinical facts, cloud is storage system it cannot physically boost perfomance.

        But hey playsation isnt any better

        “Teh power of da core”

        With ps3

        or

        “ps2 is so powerful that if terrorists got their hands on it, they would make weapons of mass destruction”

        Do consoletards believe these crap?

        • Hussain Naseem

          saddam actually did stockpile a bunker full of ps2, for use as guiding systems in missiles

    • tlcdlite

      Tell that to the developers since you know more than them..

  • hakesterman

    Ryse … really? Ryse? No it wasnt and it wasnt even on the xboxone it
    was on a high end pc with better specs than xb1. Is this guy serious?
    Deep Down looked better than Ryse…seriously.

    Dude, you have no idea what the specs were on that PC, they were never revealed. Could of been a Commodore 64 for all you know. LOL.

    • cozomel

      A Commodore 64? come on man, that was just stupid. Any idiot can clearly tell its not a Commodore and not only that but the PCs were runni ng Windows 7 and using NV graphic cards, so try again

    • Dakan45

      Wtf does a commodore 64 has to do with anything?

      Fan fact C64 failed because it was cheaper than pcs but it did not have alot of power. So they couldnt sell systems that were more powerfull alternatives from pcs. Same case with pc and consoles.

  • Guestimus Maximus

    Blah Blah Blah. MS should just shut up. Foot in mouth everyday.

    • Benjamin Ibbetson

      But what they’ve said here is rather reasonable. I say props when it’s due and it’s most definitely due now. It’s certainly a million miles away from most of their PR recently.

  • gamerguy

    What a moron! And YES, games are really what matter – Sony will kill it, they have the best studios, and exclusives by some margin! They must be well pleased that the game of the generation is a pure exclusive!

    • EX+

      Exactly. Third party Japanese devs later on, including Square Enix will go exclusive to PS4, if they haven’t already.

      • Benjamin Ibbetson

        If this generation has taught me anything, it’s that 3rd parties generally don’t go exclusive, particularly when many have only just gone multi-plat.

        • EX+

          Sorry I meant with the KH and FF.

          • Benjamin Ibbetson

            KH I can believe, although I’d prefer it to multiplat. Everyone should get the chance to play that game!

          • EX+

            Sorry I should’ve said this better; AFTER KH3 and FFXV Square will ditch the Xbox One.

        • gamerguy

          We will see how well the PS4 does – I wouldn’t be surprised to see some 3rd party exclusives hit the PS4 if the sales are amazing.

    • dirkradke

      Yea, it was said for the PS3 too. While they did well they didn’t kill anything just like the PS4 will not kill anything.

      • gamerguy

        Uhh mate – being the best selling console (true next-gen) without winning in the US and UK is pretty much killing it! The PS3 launched almost a whole year after the xbox, and at a much more expensive price, and yet they have ended up selling MORE than the xbox (by a decent margin as well). Pretty fucking impressive. That’s pretty much killing it mate – and having the best exclusives to boot!

        • dirkradke

          Well, I don’t agree with ever so scientific analysis about how great the PS4 is and the X-Box One will turn out to be so much crap.

    • tlcdlite

      Last time I heard this same kind of comment was in 2005/2006 when the Sony fanboys were saying this and what was the outcome? Xbox 360 games beat almost all ps3 multiplat games, also you may remember one of the reasons why Sony was able to sell some extra ps3s was because it was a cheaper blue-ray player, and I know many coworkers of mine who didn’t even play games bought a ps3 just for movies not games,

      • Turner Will

        None of what you said is true! That’s also last generation. The multiplats are going to look the same now if not better on Sony’s console. Sony always has better first party titles.

      • gamerguy

        Sorry dude, but like most xboxers you’re talking out of your ass!! PS3 exclusives were/are far superior, and yes, many multiplats sold more on the xbox simply because there were more xbox’s on the market (and PS gamers tend to be more selective and not buy any old shit), but that doesn’t mean anything!

        • Dakan45

          RETARD DETECTED.

          Ps3 exlusives sold like SHIT and they are massivelyoverrated.

          • Benjamin Ibbetson

            SOME were massively overrated. Many were fantastic and almost made me buy a PS3. I’m especially tempted by The Last of Us.

          • Dakan45

            Please dont tell me the last of us was 9.5 please dont.

          • Benjamin Ibbetson

            No, I won’t say that but I will tell you to get over yourself. If you are truly so ignorant/stupid that you can’t see that, my gosh, it’s possible Sony might have some good exclusives then I feel really sorry for you. To be that narrow minded must be very limiting.

            I would say (and have said) the same thing to someone who said M$, or Ninty for that matter, had no good exclusives. Please be aware that saying it has SOME good exclusives is different to saying ALL their exclusives are good.

          • Dakan45

            Sony had good exslusives, now its the same things all over, thats propably why the last of us gets 9.5s and 10s, because its diffirent.

          • gamerguy

            Uhh yeah, that’s a lie for one, and for two, overrated is a personal opinion, and coming from you, one best disregarded by ALL!

  • Rafael Jimenez

    This is a great read, now i like this guy, im going with PS4 but he have a point, and he look very honest, if just every exed were like that………

    • brianc6234

      I don’t trust him at all. His original comment is what he meant. Now he’s trying to clean up his mess so he doesn’t get fired.

  • YeahISaidIt

    is it me or is m$ in constant damage control? this will soon be a story of ‘how to not launch a console’ and the steps will be written leading up to the demise of the xbox system and brand.

  • brianc6234

    I don’t see anything on Xbone that makes me want an Xbone. Sony has a lot of great first party developers though. They’ll definitely have the better exclusives.

  • Andrew G

    Albert… The more you talk about this, the worse you’re making it to the public. Learn by Paula Deen’s mistakes and just shut up!

  • cell989

    da powa of da clawd!!!

  • duffman

    there were a few games running on a dev kit . the dev kits look like pcs . and judging from what ive seen so far the xbox 1 games looked better than sonys both companys talk crap about each other the fact is sony talks just as much bs as microsoft only difference is sony is more sneaky about .

  • Axe99

    Ye gads, Titanfall and Forza both looked much more next-gen than Ryse – the bit I saw didn’t even have the player leaving footprints on the sand in the beach, they generally got that right this gen!

  • WellWisher

    I think this guy is copping a lot of flack for very little reason. I dislike Microsoft as a company but I agree with him in the sense that I would rather drive the sports car that gives the best overall driving experience to the one that looks better on paper. I think he had a point when he made the original statement and I also think that the gaming community as a whole need to start acting like rational adults if that’s how they expect to be treated.

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  • Marlon

    There are accelerators on the Xbox One. It was already announced at Hot Chips. Microsoft just officially refers to them as the “Command Processors,” in addition to the specs; the 12 CU’s/ 768 Stream Processors, ESRAM and 8-core Jaguar. These 4 command processors divide up into 2 compute, and 2 graphics. This A.) serves as Microsoft’s solution to HUMA and B.) serves as additional processors to offload to…but it just depends on how the developers use the specs given. Developers can, simply, choose not to use the ESRAM and command processors…and that’s the one big flaw with the Xbox…too many optional features and it’s going to be Microsoft’s job to make utilizing these things easy to do, by way of SDK’s etc. and that still doesn’t even guarantee their use…the developer may have time constraints and may opt to make the most out of the X1′s slower ram and scale the experience down vs the PS4 version.